The VPN 'myth'

That makes sense...i didn't realise the ban didn't cover those matches. Back to square 1 then.....people keep saying these decent providers exist but god knows where they are. Bin Laden was easier to find than a decent IPTV server

I changed suppliers for my zgemma h2s a couple of days ago. Had one trial that wasn't great, the second trial is good so I've taken a months sub with them and I'll test it out a bit longer. I got it through the thread on this forum, if you want I can PM you who it's from and you could try a test from them.
 
I changed suppliers for my zgemma h2s a couple of days ago. Had one trial that wasn't great, the second trial is good so I've taken a months sub with them and I'll test it out a bit longer. I got it through the thread on this forum, if you want I can PM you who it's from and you could try a test from them.

Thanks. That would be great if you don't mind.
 
how a VPN works
the ISP cant block the server if it isnt on their ISP
what they can do though, is stop anyone on their ISP accessing the server, hence the blackout,
if you then use a VPN oit appears that you are no longer on that ISP so you no longer get blocked
its just the same as accessing content that is blocked in the UK, use a VPN so your IP appears to be in a different country and BOOM, you can now access blocked to the UK content
 
how a VPN works
the ISP cant block the server if it isnt on their ISP
what they can do though, is stop anyone on their ISP accessing the server, hence the blackout,
if you then use a VPN oit appears that you are no longer on that ISP so you no longer get blocked
its just the same as accessing content that is blocked in the UK, use a VPN so your IP appears to be in a different country and BOOM, you can now access blocked to the UK content

Brilliant explanation. So a VPN is needed for trouble free viewing. In my case TB who are my isp are blocking me from viewing. Thanks for making it clear to understand.
 
Brilliant explanation. So a VPN is needed for trouble free viewing. In my case TB who are my isp are blocking me from viewing. Thanks for making it clear to understand.

thats not a complete, or entirely accurate description,
but its basically what happens if you get blocked,
servers have other ways around it, like making it appear you are not accessing them, or having their IP hidden,
but, if you are getting blocked, its more than likely because of the reason I have gave
 
my provider has just got round the block today so no vpn for me,for how long we will have to wait and see.
 
I havnt had to use a vpn upto know but sooner or later there is always a chance I will need one how I look at at is if a 16 year old can hack nasa then anything is possible but I see every ones points about needing or not needing a vpn but how many people who havnt had to use a vpn honestly admit if they did get blocked
 
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I wouldn't dispute that stance, but you've just denied any existence of the block up to now.

I only started this thread due to being like you until recent days. The point is that the block is REAL.

I haven't even discussed the existance of a block, it's not important, if you have noticed
there is a block in place for sat and cable too, I just said you don't need a VPN to watch IPTV, needing a VPN is boll@cks, if you had a decent server it's not needed. Simple.

However, you said yourself that you pay £15 per year and the service goes off, you also need a VPN to keep it running

Then you say it's great, best you have had, price doesn't matter,

So lets see if it's still around in a few months.
 
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Why go on about server overload then? That shouldn't even come into the conversation when we're discussing ISP blocks.

Whether you should need a VPN or not is a different matter altogether. I didn't need a VPN until Friday either, so was the server 'decent' before then? What if they've now put a workaround in place, like other servers have supposedly done after they were hit? Will it be a decent server again then?

Let's see if yours is around in a few months too. :-)
 
Most of the time loss of service or glitchy viewing is down to server overload.
Not the need for a VPN, that's why I pointed to that being a likely cause.

Lots of cowboy servers on the IPTV side at the moment due to the changes
in sat encryption.

Many will disappear in a few months, just like "gifts" where advertised on Ebay for sat
seems facebook is the place for IPTV bandits.

Maybe I have crossed wires as I thought you where saying
there is a block and you need a VPN to get round it.

If it's not needed now it will be.

Not arsed if mine is gone in a few months, i'm on cable :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:
 
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Why go and edit your answers after I've replied??

Look, it's quite clear that you were cynical about the ISP block, but now you seem to have been persuaded to see it differently after various forum members have weighed in to the debate. It's fine. I was a cynic myself until I was able to prove that VPN opened a group of streams back up after they had gone dark. This is not glitching or freezing - it's a completely black screen for the entire duration of any Premier League games, save for maybe 5 mins at the start.

Sat and cable blocking is more an encryption issue. This is IP blocking by your own ISP....and BTW, they're not singling anyone out, it will be a UK wide network block for particular IPs that the Premier League (I'm guessing) present to them as part of a hit list - although it could be down to the ISPs to identify alleged copyright infringement (who knows).

Interestingly, I know someone from N.Ireland on the same service and they watched the Spurs v Liverpool game yesterday through BT without any issues. Therefore, it may not extend to NI. Can anyone confirm differently?

Thankfully my guy has come back this morning and said that VPN will not be required. Let's see what happens this weekend then. Hopefully he's redeemed his 'decent server' status then. :)
 
Why go and edit your answers after I've replied??

Interestingly, I know someone from N.Ireland on the same service and they watched the Spurs v Liverpool game yesterday without any issues. Therefore, it may not extend to NI. Can anyone confirm differently?

A vpn is required for n.ireland, I know of people who get blocked, but rep of Ireland dont
 
A vpn is required for n.ireland, I know of people who get blocked, but rep of Ireland dont
I would have assumed that to be the case, but can't verify it with anyone else besides this one person. Yeah, the Court Order only applied to UK territory, so ROI are ok, as you said.
 
Why go and edit your answers after I've replied??

Not sure what you are getting at, I only edit posts to put in some more information.

You seem to want to force the point of an ISP block on PL games. I never said that there wasn't one which you seem to infer.

My take on it is that there is always some kind of block so what does it matter who or how the block works, it's not important
as long as you can get around it.

And as I say, I initially thought you where coming at this from the angle of needing a VPN to get around it, if not now, sometime in the future.
 
There was supposed to be the big 6 isp providers with the block but soon enough every provider will have to sign up for it with it been a court order but how long is it going to be before they click on to people using vpns and hire some main stream hacker to get the blocks on them I've had no problems upto now with the isp blocking on ee
 
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