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llamedos

llamedos

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hi,i am trying to replace a halogen pir lamp,the original wiring from the house is:-
brown
blue
green/yellow
when i bought the new lamp there was a 4 block electrical connector,with the following:-
brown
blue
red
yellow/green
and two wires with a white fabric coating,i have joined brown to brown,blue to blue,earth to earth,but where does the red wire go,can anyone help please,thanks
 
Does this make sense?
Although I seem to think there should be a permanent live as well as the switched one?

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Willo3092 said:
Does this make sense?
Although I seem to think there should be a permanent live as well as the switched one?

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that looks pretty good,
although I've only been a spark for a little over 30 years,,,,,,,,,
so I may be [often am] wrong
 
I think the standard brown, blue, yellow/green will allow the lamp to work in PIR mode.
The red will be for a switched live to enable you to override the pir and switch it on permanently.
..... although @steptoe will know for sure
 
llamedos said:
thanks to all,could you please tell me what wire goes where please,thanks
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@Willo3092 did a pretty good job in post #3
otherwise tell us exactly what you have,
and we will try and help you fix it,
its very unusual for the wires inside the light not to come already connected

EDIT a picture would paint a thousand words if possible
 
The Red Wire from the PIR goes as per diagram to the Teminal Block then you Join the Brown Wire to it which feed the Light (ie its the Switched Live from the Sensor). You already have a Blue (Neutral) to the Light.
 
Patch1 said:
The Red Wire from the PIR goes as per diagram to the Teminal Block then you Join the Brown Wire to it which feed the Light (ie its the Switched Live from the Sensor). You already have a Blue (Neutral) to the Light.
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and the 2 fabric coated wires go to N and switched red from the sensor

this is pure guesswork from the very limited info given
 
itried to upload a picture ,but it does,nt seemed to have worked, sorry for that,i,ll try again
 
once again thanks, the wire coming from the house is,brown,blue and green/yellow,the wire in the light are,blue,brown,red,green/yellow and the two white,if i go blue to blue,brown to brown and green/yellow to green/yellow do i join the white to white and leave the red?,the only switch is in the house,please excuse me if i am looking at something obvious ,but i would rather sound a fool than blow the lamp :-)
 
llamedos said:
once again thanks, the wire coming from the house is,brown,blue and green/yellow,the wire in the light are,blue,brown,red,green/yellow and the two white,if i go blue to blue,brown to brown and green/yellow to green/yellow do i join the white to white and leave the red?,the only switch is in the house,please excuse me if i am looking at something obvious ,but i would rather sound a fool than blow the lamp :)
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why have you disconnected the wires that were already in the fitting.?
I've never yet seen a light with the wires not already connected to the connector block
 
If the 2 White heat resistant wires come from the Halogen Lamp itself then one of the White Wires goes to the the Blue (Neutral) and the other White Wire should go to the Red Wire on the Block - ( Forget the Brown Wire in the original Diagram)
 
Patch1 said:
If the 2 White heat resistant wires come from the Halogen Lamp itself then one of the White Wires goes to the the Blue (Neutral) and the other White Wire should go to the Red Wire on the Block - ( Forget the Brown Wire in the original Diagram)
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why,?
I think @Willo3092 got a basic pir spot on with his post #3
I still want to know what sort of light comes with the wires not connected.
 
steptoe said:
why,?
I think @Willo3092 got a basic pir spot on with his post #3
I still want to know what sort of light comes with the wires not connected.
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I think he was confusing the original colours in the diagram with what what colours he actually has.
Also i think he has 2 separate units 1. the original Lamp and 2. the new PIR Sensor.
Halogens lamps have to use White heat resistant Wires thats quite normal for safety.
 
Patch1 said:
I think he was confusing the original colours in the diagram with what what colours he actually has.
Also i think he has 2 separate units 1. the original Lamp and 2. the new PIR Sensor.
Halogens lamps have to use White heat resistant Wires thats quite normal for safety.
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thats why I asked for a picture
according to post #1 it doesnt appear to be seperate unitts
halogen lamps do NOT need sleeving if they have been done with correct wiring, its only CCC you see with extra sleeving usually, but who in their right mind would actually fit a halogen light these days.?
 
i don't think we have to worry now steptoe - Been awhile since his last post maybe having a ride out in a Ambulance Lol.
 
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