Finally got around to trying again to flash the above box, 2x 8gb, 4x16gb and 6x 32gb usb sticks were tried, all to no avail, so i was using a different laptop to download open atv on, i then got the old laptop out and downloaded open atv on 2 of the 16s and 2 of the 32s, put the 1st one into the box and it flashed, then got wooshbuild on, but i still did something wrong as i didnt get any bouquets on the box, ended up putting all the remaining sat channels onto favourite channels manually, took a while, so i am open to suggestions as to why the box wouldnt flash when i downloaded from the new laptop, but worked first time when i used my old one, and also why i didnt get any sat bouquets on, the mate who owns it will be using for iptv and sat, so i will try and get that sorted for him next.