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clarkey1230

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Hi I am trying to set up motorised system. I setup dish to point south, moved it to thor 0.8 degrees, put lat and long into box, then sent dish to 28.2e but didnt find it, I used the system to move the dish until it locked onto the satellite, then reset all the others to use this alignment as reference. Still no good. I cant seem to find guides anywhere on setting up motorised system on f5 hoping someone on here may of had sucess and can give me some pointers. Thanks
 
fist load up your can list to box put in your Latitude and long A negative number on the longitude means West ie -20000
Assemble the dish and motor as per the instructions
Once the motor is assembled you need to set your latitude, on the side of the motor bracket is a scale, and on the motors body is a small mark, alaign the mark with your latitude and tighten them up.

Now you need to mount the dish onto the motor, this is an important part of the installation as if the dish is not mounted on the motors pole correctly then it will fail to follow the satellite arc correctly and you will not pick up the available signals correctly, The dish has to be pointing away from the center of the motors pole, check this as you are tightening the dish onto the pole because as you tighten the left nut the dish will turn on the pole to the right and vice versa so tighten both sides of the clamp evenly.

Now armed with spanners take the dish up the ladder (be very carefull, especially if its a bit windy as they tend to be really good at catching wind when you're not expecting it) and you should be able to hook the clamp on the back of the motor over the wall bracket pole (if its pointing up) tighten the bolts so that the dish is holding in position but can still be turned left and right by turning the whole motor and dish together and the dish can be tilted up and down on the dish itself without using too much force. But dont put the ladders away just yet, you still have to alaign it to all those satellites tens of thousands of miles away.

Just a quick recap.

You should now have:

A perfectly vertical mount on the wall with the motor and dish attached to it.
The LNB on the dish connected to the motor.
A cable running from the dish to the back of your television (but not yet connected).
A satellite reciever connected to your television by a scart lead.

Next we will connect the dish and motor to the reciever and set up the reciever and motor ready for you to start looking for satellites to alaign the dish.
Now before you enter anything into the reciever go back outside and take a quick look at the dish with the dish face itself sitting pretty straight, if not a quick trip up the ladder now will save you pulling your hair out in 20 mins time. Now would also be an ideal time to use your compass to point the dish as due south as you can, it doesnt need to be spot on, but its no good pointing it towards santas house.

Back into the house now, and into the motorised setup menu. First of all select a satellite, for this we'll use Thor @ 1'W. Now select your motor type. I always use USALS as its so easy when it comes to adding more satellites. Now you need to enter your latitude and longitude that you wrote down earlier (you did keep them safe i hope). Once all this is done you should have an option to 'Go To' highlight this and press OK. The dish will move slightly. Now if you havent got a signal strength meter you are going to have to rely on the onscreen levels,or
if you have a chan list on the box with 1 west (0.8) put it on to BBC WORLD this
is a fta chan
you need to slowly move the dish to get the best possible. pic once this is done you can tighten the dish .best to now use a meter if you have one to fine tune
it

Now you need to tighten the motor onto the pole. Be carefull here because if you just go tightening the bolts you will move the dish. As you tighten a clamp onto a round fixing the clamp moves in the opposite direction its being tightened. So, if you tighten the bolt on the left 3 turns, also tighten the bolt on the right 3 turns. Do this untill you are satisfied that it is tight enough.

now search for other sats with USALS
hope this helps

remember ths box can only hold so many chans it makes it inpossible to have a full multi sat
with out having to delete some chans the best way is to scan the sats you want and delete the chans from them
you dont need ie none speaking english i have a chan list with
sky uk
hotbird
7 west (7.3)
16 e
30 w
1 west
23.5 east
39 e
36 e
7 e
4.8 e
45 e
9 e
4 w
57 e

but i had to delete some chans from these sats
 
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Thanks for the info very easy to understand, I think my error was that I did the thor set up on diseqc and tried to find the satellites with no luck, ithen researched and found usals was the correct option and sent it to 28.2 with that, no signal I then manually turned into alignment and set that effectively as my reference, howeverusals not picking up the others. Ithink I will start afresh using guide above see what happens. The only thing that concerns me is that when I used diseqc and found astra 28.2 manually I then saved it and used the recalculation button to set the rest to it, im wondering if I have messed up theusals data now and need to factory reset first?
 
you need a perfectly vertical mount to start with also set lnb to universal 9750 10600 you can del the old sats from the satalitte list
like i say if you have 1 west chanlist with bbc world on it will make it easier to find once you have this use USALS to find the others
how big is you dish some you will not get if you dont have a big dish

found this my help
Satellite .-.-.-.-.--.-.------------------.Dish size for :-south east England ------------.North & West England..
(Dish size's in the North & West will need to be 30 to 40% larger to achieve the same reception as the South East of England.)
This guide is based on an 0.6dB Lnb with all dish size's.
ABS-1 {LMI-1}--------------------- 75 east 120cm
Intelsat-4 --------------------------72 east 80cm
Eutelsat-W5 ------------------------70.5 east 100cm
Intelsat-7 & 10 ---------------------68.5 east 100cm
Intelsat-902 ------------------------62 east 80cm
NSS-7 ------------------------------57 east 80cm
Express AM-22 ----------------------53 east 80cm {120cm required for 12500 to 12750 beam}
Intelsat-12 -------------------------45 east 80 cm
Turksat 1C & 2A --------------------42 east 90cm--------.----------------100cm.reception only for west beam,
The UK is too far outside the intended service area of Turksat 42 east " East beam " no reception possible in the UK.
Express-AM-1 ----------------------40 east100cm
Hellasat-2 --------------------------39 ----- 60cm-----.------------------80cm.this is for Europe beam only,
No reception possible from Aegean sea beam "Greece & Turkey" of Hellasat-2 @ 39 east,
Eutelsat Sesat ----------------------36 -----100cm reception only for European beam,No reception possible in the UK from Eutelsat W4 beam to Russia,
Eurobird-3 --------------------------33 ----100cm It is Not possible to receive services from Eastern Europe beams in UK,
Astra-5A ----------------------------31.5 east -----80cm dish
Astra---2A- B- C & Eurobird-1------28.2 / 28.5-----45cm-----.--------------------60cm.
Astra 2D------------------------------28.2----45cm-------------------------------60cm--------------It is not possible to receive reliable reception from Astra 2D outside the intended service area,
Badr-3 & 4 ---------------------------26 -----100cm to 120cm---------North>> 120 to 180cm no guarantee of MBC in the North or the new BSS footprint on Badr-6,
Astra-1E & 3A*---------------------23.5 -----90cm --------------------------120 *further West even bigger dish required
Eutelsat-W-6 -----------------------21.6 ----120 to 150cm
Astra-1--F-G-H-KR-1L-------------19.2 ------50cm -------.------------------60cm.
Eutelsat-W-2 ----------------------16 ------100cm
Hotbird--6--7A & 8 ---------------13---------50cm---------.-------------------60cm.
Eutelsat-W1 ----------------------10 -------100 to 120cm
Eurobird-9 ----------------------- --9 --------80cm
Eutelsat-W3A ---------------------7 ---------80cm
Sirius-4---------------------------4.8 east ---120cm no reliable reception from Nordic beam outside intended service area.
Sirius-4---------------------------4.8 --------80cm European beam,
Astra-1C -------------------------4.6--------70cm {no longer in service}
Eurobird-4 ------------------------4 ---------80cm
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Thor-5 --------------------0.8 west --80cm
Thor-3 --------------------0.8 -------120cm no reliable service from Nordic beam outside intended service area,
Intelsat-10-02 ------------1 west ---80cm
Amos-2 & 3----------------4 west ---100cm no reliable service in UK as we are not inside the intended service area,
AtlanticBird-3 -------------5 west ----60cm ----.-------------------70cm.
Nilesat-101 & 102 ------------------7 ---------120 to 150cm {for vertical transponder's} for Horizontal Tp's 240cm + but no reliable reception possible in the UK as we are well outside the service area for this satellite,best reception is on the South coast of the UK, North of Birmingham reception drops off considerably due to the curvature of the earth,
AtlanticBird-4 ----------------------7 west No reception possible in the UK,
AtlanticBird-2 ---------------------8 ---------60cm-------.------------------------------80cm.
Express A-3 ----------------------11--------(100cm in southern uk for ATV & RTRS)----150cm to 240cm in the north,No reliable service in the UK,
AtlanticBird-1 ----------------------12.5 ------80cm
Telstar-12 -------------------------15 --------80cm {some transponder's now require 120cm dish}
Intelsat-901 ------------------------18 --------80cm
NSS-7 ------------------------------22 -------100cm
Intelsat-905 -----------------------24.5 ------80cm
Intelsat-907 -----------------------27.5 ------80cm
Hispasat 1C & 1D -------------------30 -------80cm to 100cm
Intelsat 801 -----------------------31.5 -----100cm
Intelsat-903 -----------------------34.5 ------80cm
Intelsat-3R ------------------------43.1 ------80cm
Intelsat-1R-------------------------45.1 ------80cm
Intelsat-9 ---------------------------58 -------90cm {some transponder's now require 100cm dish}
 
Ah I see, I have an 80cm dish so can see some I wont get anyway' I have the pole square and true and I confirmed this by checking the main fixing bracket once it was all mounted. I shall go for the set up again using thor0.8 which I assume will have some strong chanels. So I delete all my current set up satellites and go from scratch, do I keep the satellites that are in the main sat list, I assu e theywill remainat default settings? Thanks for all your help so far
 
i would try and keep your 1 west and delete the rest you can change diseqc to USALS in the settings you have now
 
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Thanks very much I shall crack on with it in the daylight, not sure neighbours be happy with me if I get out there now ;)
 
Mainly hotbird I think and sky plus any that might have some free sport to watch on it (not really that genned up on whats on where to be honest)
 
al jazeerasport football has gone from 13e now on 26e 7 west (7.3) hard to pick up with 1m dish
il pm you a web that has a what tells you what game is on what sat
 
Thanks again for your advice, I think I've done it now, am finding a few sats and checked them using lyngsat so know I've got the right ones. Not great signals )even on sly channels so I assume maybe it's down to dish/ lnb now as I have perfectly square pole, elevation set and tried to up signal strength tweeting up down left right etc and can't improve, think ill use motorised for all other channels then swap wires about when I want to watch 28.2 for now
 
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