i have not been conned in any way, but when you get a member of this forum, saying they will sort out a s_b and keep you waiting and tell you that many things, you take poeple at face value and yes i believed what he was saying, but for him to suggest i finish with my sky sub and get one of his well that sort of thing is a little below the belt, why he could not tell me what was happenning is beyond me