Lmao, you sound like you are a lefty corbynite that carnt stand anyone disagreeing with your point off view,
and fall back on calling people angry men.
My country the kindest greatest in the world in my eyes,i just think corbyns world dont exsist
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and fall back on calling people angry men.
My country the kindest greatest in the world in my eyes,i just think corbyns world dont exsist
It's you who started the argument mate.
You sound like you come from North Korea to be perfectly honest.
why, cause i think corbyn is a idiot,North korea? wtf?
enough politics with children for me, especially ones that have probably done nothing at all for there country,
especially the people that don't have the brain cells to actually debate a issue without trying to make it personal.
off ya trot.
enough politics with children for me, especially ones that have probably done nothing at all for there country,
especially the people that don't have the brain cells to actually debate a issue without trying to make it personal.
off ya trot.
Nighttimenel
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The debt has grown hugely, over 1 trillion yes that's 1 trillion since 2010, ( when the Tory party came to power)from roughly 775 billion to 1.75 trillion,they may claim their plan is working but at who's expense, the people who caused it or the people who can least afford it? May came in pronouncing she was for all not just the rich and she was " coming after big business" what were the first two things she did? Cut disability payments and let Osbournes tax cuts for business and the richest 10% sail through. Never listen to what the Tory party says, look at what they do.
As for Mays strong and stable government, this is the party who's budgets fall to pieces after a day and it does so many u turns it looks like a corkscrew. Even their manifesto required a u turn and she was visibly quaking and shaking when pulled up about caps on care, I wouldn't let her negotiate a phone deal let alone her and Boris getting us out of Europe, just like Cameron she will crumble come back and tell us all she did a great job and because we want to be ruled by posh folk we will tug our forelock and let them ride roughshod and thank them for pulling down our trousers and spanking us.
Don't get me wrong Labour is finished, but the least you can say about Corbyn is he sticks to his principles, it's just his principles come from the seventies or are just plain wrong. It will have to split because even if Corbyn goes the way its set up now it will be another staunch left winger that gets elected to lead it. I honestly don't think it would take very much compromise from Labour to be right in this fight but they just won't do it.
As for Mays strong and stable government, this is the party who's budgets fall to pieces after a day and it does so many u turns it looks like a corkscrew. Even their manifesto required a u turn and she was visibly quaking and shaking when pulled up about caps on care, I wouldn't let her negotiate a phone deal let alone her and Boris getting us out of Europe, just like Cameron she will crumble come back and tell us all she did a great job and because we want to be ruled by posh folk we will tug our forelock and let them ride roughshod and thank them for pulling down our trousers and spanking us.
Don't get me wrong Labour is finished, but the least you can say about Corbyn is he sticks to his principles, it's just his principles come from the seventies or are just plain wrong. It will have to split because even if Corbyn goes the way its set up now it will be another staunch left winger that gets elected to lead it. I honestly don't think it would take very much compromise from Labour to be right in this fight but they just won't do it.
Why are they seventies? Because your told to say it?
You told me the same yesterday, is someone telling you too say that?.
I'll just leave this here for you pal, probably not made the news this one.
https://tompride.wordpress.com/2017/05/21/former-active-ira-member-serving-as-tory-party-councillor/
Nighttimenel
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No because I'm old enough to have lived through Labour politics in the seventies, so I can make a genuine comparison, I hope that meets your high standards to have an opinion on something.
Apologies i didn't mean to belittle your post, it's just another drum i am hearing at the minute.
http://www.redpepper.org.uk/the-myth-of-the-1970s/
As others have said, Labour spends money we haven't got and then the tories come in and try and clean up the mess. That's how its been ever since I can vote (52 years old). I wish there was another option other than the Tories or Labour, but the simple truth is there isn't. I dislike voting for any of them, but in my view Labour will get the country into a bigger mess than the tories will. So my vote will go to the tories.
The majority of my family have always voted Labour because our ancestors voted Labour. If labour said they would burn their house down they would still vote Labour. I hate their views because Labour can do no wrong whatever they do. If you point out that most local businesses around here will only hire you if you have just come into the country because they can screw you more it doesn't seem to matter, even though Labour are supposed to be for the working class. I am the black sheep of the family because I can think for myself and I have educated myself. I will vote for the party that will screw the country the least.
In my view we need a revolution to get them all out and start again, because nothing ever changes and nothing ever will, and I so hope I am wrong.
The majority of my family have always voted Labour because our ancestors voted Labour. If labour said they would burn their house down they would still vote Labour. I hate their views because Labour can do no wrong whatever they do. If you point out that most local businesses around here will only hire you if you have just come into the country because they can screw you more it doesn't seem to matter, even though Labour are supposed to be for the working class. I am the black sheep of the family because I can think for myself and I have educated myself. I will vote for the party that will screw the country the least.
In my view we need a revolution to get them all out and start again, because nothing ever changes and nothing ever will, and I so hope I am wrong.
garyth
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Don't have the option to select my party as the SNP ain't there. IMHO we are more than capable of going it alone, up until the indref I voted Labour every time and Ill be up front as well that I'm heavily into the unions and what they stand for.
In all my lifetime I have never seen such a fooked up country, a Tory party who have lied to us all for years, deficit, debt, pensions.........the list goes on. The Tories have never came into fix the deficit, all they done was attack us normal people who didn't work in the banking sector that took us down.
RBS being one who has consistently lost year after year and continues to do so whilst handing out obscene amounts of money in bonuses
Personally I have just seen my wife robbed of her 28 years service into her superannuation pension scheme. A hard working midwife who has been shafted for thousands and yeah just like the fireman, the police and the rest. It is beyond belief how this government sit there destroying the health service and lie every day. As per my opening line I vote for the SNP now and I think you all need to wake up before this Tory mob take you all to task.
My SNP vote will change nothing for all my brothers and sisters down south, but just remember one thing, the elderly are about to be attacked and damn well you all know it. Have a serious think about what your about to do as IMHO May is the one we should all be very scared of.......
In all my lifetime I have never seen such a fooked up country, a Tory party who have lied to us all for years, deficit, debt, pensions.........the list goes on. The Tories have never came into fix the deficit, all they done was attack us normal people who didn't work in the banking sector that took us down.
RBS being one who has consistently lost year after year and continues to do so whilst handing out obscene amounts of money in bonuses
Personally I have just seen my wife robbed of her 28 years service into her superannuation pension scheme. A hard working midwife who has been shafted for thousands and yeah just like the fireman, the police and the rest. It is beyond belief how this government sit there destroying the health service and lie every day. As per my opening line I vote for the SNP now and I think you all need to wake up before this Tory mob take you all to task.
My SNP vote will change nothing for all my brothers and sisters down south, but just remember one thing, the elderly are about to be attacked and damn well you all know it. Have a serious think about what your about to do as IMHO May is the one we should all be very scared of.......
RockySauce
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Anyone who is working class & votes tory is a complete knobhead .I remember what those bastards did to us in the 80s.
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garyth
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Anyone watching the live debate tonight has just had a tester of what we have in power at the moment. That crackpot Boris, simple questions regarding pensioners fuel allowance, no answer. Social care cap....no answer. Please use your brain and watch while the only issue that Teresea May will want to talk about is brexit. It aint about that, it's about the Uk and the absolute doin that the shower of Tory rich elite bar stewards are about to unleash on all of us.
The problem is. People have been conditioned to believe whatever they are told through mainstream media, which since the end of the 70's has been heavily controlled by the right wing tories and capitalism becoming full blown to wipe out Socialism without it ever having the chance of returning. People don't think anymore, they are told what to believe.
meliam112
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I loved the 70's!!!! Slade & T-Rex at the beginning, The Sex Pistols, The Clash, Madness, The Specials at the end.
We had sunshine in the Summer and snow in the Winter.
My Mum & Dad were happy, never struggled to heat the house or pay their bills, yeah the leccy went off 2 or 3 times, so what it was a laugh, better than the miserable times we have now.
Go back to the 70's? Bring it on!!! Much better than heading to the 30's with that sour faced bitch.
We had sunshine in the Summer and snow in the Winter.
My Mum & Dad were happy, never struggled to heat the house or pay their bills, yeah the leccy went off 2 or 3 times, so what it was a laugh, better than the miserable times we have now.
Go back to the 70's? Bring it on!!! Much better than heading to the 30's with that sour faced bitch.
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Yet its the ''frugal tories'' who have managed to double the deficit since 2010.
Did i say corbyn was the only idiot,although i dont know that lady i am sure,theres plenty more diane abbout said any victory against the british state is a victory for all, but as she admitted to her credit {if you can give her any on her performance} that she was a different person then, corbyn as people say as principles,
There just not mine.
grouser
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As an ex service man I could never vote for a party that as Corben at the helm, he is an accident in the making,just hearing him condemning the latest terrorist acts while holding the option that he thinks the IRA were right in the 60's 70's and beyond were right and openly declaring it will never see my vote,and any Labourite should hang their heads in shame for voting for a party that has that attitude and the blessing of that waste of space Blair the Betrayer behind him
I get your point but the other main alternative sold billions of arms to the Saudis who are the main sponsors of terrorism.
And cut the police force to the lowest levels, taking beat bobbies, armed response units and dogs and handlers out of action.
At least Labour isn't going to be taking money from this poor working man to give to their rich mates.
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