There don't seem to be many threads here about them. Is this because the box is relatively new? It's a VU+, they have good rep, they look good - this box is 4K and really cheap for a 4K VU box. I would have throught more people would be raving about them? They only run oscam due to the chipset is a that an issue? I see they are not supported yet by whoosh builds, is that the issue? Would love to see some 4K channels! These are worrying times to be thinking about investing in any box going forward..> Can anyone advise?