Been reading this thread with great interest. Am tempted to purchase the Octagon SF8 guys, but with this issue of HD channels being down, is it worth it still? From what I've read, some HD channels are still up (BT sport, Sly Sports) but if those too disappear then is an Octagon SF8 worth it? At £119 it isnt the cheapest box available from what I can see but comes with good reviews. My hope is to be able to watch HD channels and record onto an external HD. The £120 mark is my absolute max, cheaper of course is better! Thanks guys, much appreciated!