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Ferret. said:
Seems this thread is turning into a joke thread.

At least there are one or two of us interested in how.

Stream Relay is interesting, is used for the PowerVU channels but regular hash changes where implemented causing disruption. If this went public we would see this again on this hack.
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Exactly, I'm posting to try to learn more about this. If someone thinks I'm wrong about something, can you explain why so I can learn?

I'm beginning to wonder if this is a different hack to the closed server. I've also thought it was strange how the Viark situation ended with Sky. They were able to decrypt it, but stopped by choice.

Forever is also the only server I know of that autoroll decrypts PowerVu for AFN on 9e. If they have had this working all along, could it be that this is how they were able to decrypt sky?

Now that there is another option, they may have made the original hack more public.

I believe this is the github for the modified Oscam package that was used for PowerVu, maybe a starting point for someone with more knowledge than me:
Stream Relay config · oscam-emu/oscam-patched Wiki
 
Ferret. said:
Seems this thread is turning into a joke thread.

At least there are one or two of us interested in how.

Stream Relay is interesting, is used for the PowerVU channels but regular hash changes where implemented causing disruption. If this went public we would see this again on this hack.
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Yeah that's one of the problems with this site, if people aren't interested in something or stand to potentially lose money from sales if something better than what they're selling comes along they try to derail a thread with stupid comments.

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werdna said:
Exactly, I'm posting to try to learn more about this. If someone thinks I'm wrong about something, can you explain why so I can learn?

I'm beginning to wonder if this is a different hack to the closed server. I've also thought it was strange how the Viark situation ended with Sky. They were able to decrypt it, but stopped by choice.

Forever is also the only server I know of that autoroll decrypts PowerVu for AFN on 9e. If they have had this working all along, could it be that this is how they were able to decrypt sky?

Now that there is another option, they may have made the original hack more public.

I believe this is the github for the modified Oscam package that was used for PowerVu, maybe a starting point for someone with more knowledge than me:
Stream Relay config · oscam-emu/oscam-patched Wiki
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Im reading the same threads on the German site as you are mate, very interesting stuff, stream relay is nothing new read up on the PowerVU channels. Stream relay is no longer needed for most STB's as drivers have been adapted VU+ boxes needed to use stream relay on PowerVU for quite some time until they tweaked the drivers.
 
Ferret. said:
Im reading the same threads on the German site as you are mate, very interesting stuff, stream relay is nothing new read up on the PowerVU channels. Stream relay is no longer needed for most STB's as drivers have been adapted VU+ boxes needed to use stream relay on PowerVU for quite some time until they tweaked the drivers.
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That makes more sense. I do still think this is a different hack than the original, or at least the same hack done independently of the first sellers.

The first reseller I found for the German image posted an update yesterday saying:
We will be bringing our own system online in just under 1 week , with real local maps without being a reseller from the reseller, including a script that installs everything for you without you having to do any tinkering!
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This is a seller with a confirmed multisat server, and his closed image worked too, so could be a half reliable source. The fact he said it's not from the original reseller suggests this hack is potentially more widely available.
 
Stream-relay to use icam has nothing to do with PowerVu.

It's simply that the E2 box drivers don't support icam, in the same way they didn't support DES or CSA (I don't remember which it was now as it was years ago and i've been to sleep since) for powervu, so the only way to get an E2 box to work with icam is to include the icam algo into the oscam build, then force the box to process it internally, thus it relays the stream though the box to oscam, which can then process the icam algo and decrypt the stream.

It seems the guys with the closed source image, found another way to force E2 to use icam, without the need for stream-relay according to the Germans.
 
cokeaddict said:
Stream-relay to use icam has nothing to do with PowerVu.

It's simply that the E2 box drivers don't support icam, in the same way they didn't support DES or CSA (I don't remember which it was now as it was years ago and i've been to sleep since) for powervu, so the only way to get an E2 box to work with icam is to include the icam algo into the oscam build, then force the box to process it internally, thus it relays the stream though the box to oscam, which can then process the icam algo and decrypt the stream.
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I had read that icam wasn't installed by default in enigma2, but one of the admins on that forum said yesterday:
the ICAM code is in the Enigma2 binary and not in the OSCam. The OSCam only forwards the requests there and, if necessary, accepts them again,
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Maybe he is meaing that the Icam code is in the closed enimga2 image rather than a public version?
cokeaddict said:
It seems the guys with the closed source image, found another way to force E2 to use icam, without the need for stream-relay according to the Germans.
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That makes sense. From what I've seen the new hack shows the signal level as "N/A" due to the relay, I don't think the first system had this issue?
 
werdna said:
I had read that icam wasn't installed by default in enigma2, but one of the admins on that forum said yesterday:

Maybe he is meaing that the Icam code is in the closed enimga2 image rather than a public version?

That makes sense. From what I've seen the new hack shows the signal level as "N/A" due to the relay, I don't think the first system had this issue?
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Icam isn't in any public image, it would be stupid of any image team to include it as the code is owned by Sly, and i'm 99.9999999999% sure they would happily sue any team that were to include it in a public image as it's blatant theft of copyrighted material.

The same goes for any manufacturer that were to include icam support in the box drivers.
 
Ferret. said:
Seems this thread is turning into a joke thread.

At least there are one or two of us interested in how.
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Agreed, let's try keep the thread on topic please.
I cant grasp the show's, I just like the idea of full 28.2 being back, but just not at the price the Ru551an fella was trying to sell at. I bought one of the lines last year or early this year (whenever it was) just to mess around with sat again, and would probably do the same again should I be offeredvat the right price, and not need to use a specific box.

I pop in and out of this thread every other day or so, and get my head blown by yours and werdna's posts.
 
urie said:
All these newbies comming on with all this info , were are our experts or are they just laughing in the background .
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No one on here is a real expert on this mate. Some of the tech side of this hack is understandable by some, but i doubt any of us hobbyists could put this in to application.

And i dont see anyone laughing in the background with knowledge their not sharing if that what you mean mate. Yeah this has been around since it dropped from the Viarks and E2 but after that not sure why you'd hold your hand up to that for fear of been ridiculed.
 
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