New Transponder on 28E - 11038 V 22000
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the reaper
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Yep--Sky can do anything they want to do, including up and coming name changes eg Fox to be Sky Fox among others.
Plus up go the prices yet again.
Who are the pirates---Sky or us?
Reaper.
Plus up go the prices yet again.
Who are the pirates---Sky or us?
Reaper.
bazcfc1
VIP Member
Definitely sly reaper no wonder why all of us on here have/had some kind of card sharing lol
marty47
Member
been on a few forums this week m8, they did it before, for a while, don't know if ITV Encore HD will be available
RustyMG
TK Veteran
Actually, way back in the day when Freesat was a serious threat to Sky, ITV had even advertised that their HD channels were going to be free and readily available on that platform....
Then Sky stepped in and bribed - sorry, "subsidised them" to sign up to Sky only.
This guaranteed subsidy was rumoured to be at least equal to the advertising revenue they would normally have made.
ITV would lose this hefty subsidy overnight if those channels went back to FTA, so despite what may be on some forums, it ain't gonna happen.
Then Sky stepped in and bribed - sorry, "subsidised them" to sign up to Sky only.
This guaranteed subsidy was rumoured to be at least equal to the advertising revenue they would normally have made.
ITV would lose this hefty subsidy overnight if those channels went back to FTA, so despite what may be on some forums, it ain't gonna happen.
Smithy Munchy
TK Veteran
I only watch ITV2 HD for seeing a bit of Holly on Celebrity Juice..
Canny beat some Holly in HD ;-)
Canny beat some Holly in HD ;-)
cappuccino99
Newbie
Several channels have moved over to Freesat lately-
Discovery have moved more of theirs,
UKTV have moved more of theirs
Premier Sports just launched Freesports on Freesat, & they have some not insignificant sports rights - that's quite something
Going free instead of behind Sky's paywall means you are in more homes & go from a little fish inside sky's channels to a bigger fish on Freesat & advertising revenue jumps.
All the above independent broadcasters must see it as viable
Sky's not subsidising the channels that would probably be on Freesat now- Sky customers are lol, they just don't know it & still have the ad breaks..
That one's like one of Del Boy's deals - "see rod-nee- we get them to pay froo the nose for sky, den rod-nee - we use some of their own dosh to bribe the channels they wudav got for free wot some of dem just want anyway ... c u s h t e e! "*
(* only wiv an ozzy accent of course ) .
Discovery have moved more of theirs,
UKTV have moved more of theirs
Premier Sports just launched Freesports on Freesat, & they have some not insignificant sports rights - that's quite something
Going free instead of behind Sky's paywall means you are in more homes & go from a little fish inside sky's channels to a bigger fish on Freesat & advertising revenue jumps.
All the above independent broadcasters must see it as viable
Sky's not subsidising the channels that would probably be on Freesat now- Sky customers are lol, they just don't know it & still have the ad breaks..
That one's like one of Del Boy's deals - "see rod-nee- we get them to pay froo the nose for sky, den rod-nee - we use some of their own dosh to bribe the channels they wudav got for free wot some of dem just want anyway ... c u s h t e e! "*
(* only wiv an ozzy accent of course ) .
mike142
TK Veteran
Transponder 11686 V is back on again, the symbol rate has changed to 23000, & there are 2 extra channels, - COLORS HD & DAYSTAR HD.
Some more changes on 11597 V 22000, - Travel Channel+1,Vintage TV,Channels 24 & a Test card.
RustyMG
TK Veteran
Re above, I got a test line the other day, and ITV4 HD glitched like hell, so I checked the ECM times coming from the line, and pinged the server from my PC at the same time (ping times were excellent, confirming issue was with the provider / line).
The seller got back to me, asking how it went and I said it was a shame but ITV4 HD was unwatchable, and he argued with me over several emails that it was FTA!!
I pointed out I'd be unable to get an ECM time if it was, as the line wouldn't be decrypting the channel.
If he didn't even know what channels are encrypted I guess he was a reseller.......
cappuccino99
Newbie
ITV HD changed to using DVB-S2/8PSK 3/4 FEC. That 3/4 fec combined with dvb-s2/8psk caused glitching problems for some, some early Sony & Panasonic Freesat TVs & a few other devices- maybe early MVision/ Spiderboxes.
This may be part of the same issue, it certainly looks a likely candidate for what is an otherwise odd problem.
(the others use 2/3 on dvb-s2/8psk - somewhat more forgiving but ITV gained c. 20% or it allowed then to add more HD channels- a few years ago they wouldn't have got away with it, it's only been possible with improvements)
This may be part of the same issue, it certainly looks a likely candidate for what is an otherwise odd problem.
(the others use 2/3 on dvb-s2/8psk - somewhat more forgiving but ITV gained c. 20% or it allowed then to add more HD channels- a few years ago they wouldn't have got away with it, it's only been possible with improvements)
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