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Sly blocking iptv

teddybloat said:
there's a big enough barrier to entry for iptv to be able to carry on

remember people have to have fibre broadband which is about £20 more expensive than ordinary broadband, they also need a monthly sub which is at least a tenner. have to be able to use telenet, FTP, order and often install a VPN, flash an image onto a box that comes installed with a german OS as standard and one bought from a specialist website. i mean what the **** does flash and image mean to the average punter looking for cheap TV?

fibre £30-40
vpn £2
iptv sub £10

theres £50 + rips per month plus a whole lot of hassle. it's less than a sky sub, but not by much

its the stuff ending up on reddit and free kodi streams they are going after.

card sharing is a piddle to sell and install, and much, much cheaper compared to IPTV
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If only mr merchod didn't press the big red button we all wouldn't have the hassle and ago of iptv or rip off traders
 
teddybloat said:
there's a big enough barrier to entry for iptv to be able to carry on

remember people have to have fibre broadband which is about £20 more expensive than ordinary broadband, they also need a monthly sub which is at least a tenner. have to be able to use telenet, FTP, order and often install a VPN, flash an image onto a box that comes installed with a german OS as standard and one bought from a specialist website. i mean what the **** does flash and image mean to the average punter looking for cheap TV?

fibre £30-40
vpn £2
iptv sub £10

theres £50 + rips per month plus a whole lot of hassle. it's less than a sky sub, but not by much

its the stuff ending up on reddit and free kodi streams they are going after.

card sharing is a piddle to sell and install, and much, much cheaper compared to IPTV
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I agree to an extent although your logic is slightly flawed, most people use their broadband for other things and would have it regardless of whether they were interested in iptv or not, so this charge can be removed from the equation. What i mean here is that even if someone were to take a Sky sub at ?£60? per month, they'd still have their BB to pay anyway, as it's used by everyone in the household. I pay £26 for 20mb which is more than ample for iptv and my iptv supplier doesn't require a VPN, so that's another £2 removed from the £50 quoted above. Like you said, they're going for the pre loaded stuff and idiot suppliers all over ebay who make it easy for them to block, sadly most people aren't savvy enough to use putty or know how to tie their own shoe laces and these are who are being targeted, but like you mention above, it becomes such a PITA that they'd be as well pay a regular sub to sky and have done. The hard way isn't for them, it's for us but we are in a minority and that's what the big boys want, they know they can't stop everyone - they don't need to, they just need to stop the ones who aren't very bright, which unfortunately is the majority
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Vpn providers won't get blocked. Too many legitimate uses/users. Iptv is gonna be around a good while imo. It's now really easy to set a box up anyway, put a prebuilt image on a usb stick, pop in the box and switch on!! Then if you have a decent supplier like mine they give you everything you need to get up and running super easy in no time at all. But Yeah, some people will feel it's too hard
 
@pablo

Yes people would have bb, but i know from experience that when people have to upgrade to fibre and consider purchasing a vpn they simply don't think it's worth it. the in laws went back to sky rather then go through all that.

You say it's unfortunate that most people arent technical enough to go through iptv, I'd say it is fortunate. The constant requests for hand holding and unwillingness to do any research or experimenting is mildly annoying on here, but that people need hand holding might keep iptv from gathering the same publicity of cardsharing.
 
teddybloat said:
@pablo

Yes people would have bb, but i know from experience that when people have to upgrade to fibre and consider purchasing a vpn they simply don't think it's worth it. the in laws went back to sky rather then go through all that.

You say it's unfortunate that most people arent technical enough to go through iptv, I'd say it is fortunate. The constant requests for hand holding and unwillingness to do any research or experimenting is mildly annoying on here, but that people need hand holding might keep iptv from gathering the same publicity of cardsharing.
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I agree totally. I showed my dad and his wife a Zgemma set up like his sly box, explained what he needed etc. They ended up taking my firestick with Terrarium tv instead. Much simpler for them! I hope iptv remains more underground as the bigger it gets the more attention it attracts, and we know where that leads!! Leave it to us more technical minded who like to stick it to the man haha!
 
I have a few friends that called getting a vpn and the box set up for iptv hassle...even though it wouldn't be them setting it up...nob head here would be handed them...they all just paid for a sky sub.
 
rapture_ni said:
I have a few friends that called getting a vpn and the box set up for iptv hassle...even though it wouldn't be them setting it up...nob head here would be handed them...they all just paid for a sky sub.
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I'm afraid this is the times we are living in, I have relatives, only in their thirties, who have no idea about anything 'technical'.
If the kettle, toaster, iron etc stops working, do they take the plug off it and check the fuse? - or attempt any kind of repair? - no they drop it in the bin as they are on their way to Argos to spend £60 on a new one for the sake of a 5p fuse.
This isn't just small stuff neither, vacuum cleaners, washing machines and everything else, their philosophy is, 'i plugged it in and it didn't work, we replaced it'...if i say to them 'why didn't you check the fuse or take the back off and see if it was something obvious first?' they usually just reply, 'it's not worth bothering with, we've had it six months and a new one was only £60' - as if they're millionaires - they've not got a pot to p!$$ in
 
pabloescaban said:
I'm afraid this is the times we are living in, I have relatives, only in their thirties, who have no idea about anything 'technical'.
If the kettle, toaster, iron etc stops working, do they take the plug off it and check the fuse? - or attempt any kind of repair? - no they drop it in the bin as they are on their way to Argos to spend £60 on a new one for the sake of a 5p fuse.
This isn't just small stuff neither, vacuum cleaners, washing machines and everything else, their philosophy is, 'i plugged it in and it didn't work, we replaced it'...if i say to them 'why didn't you check the fuse or take the back off and see if it was something obvious first?' they usually just reply, 'it's not worth bothering with, we've had it six months and a new one was only £60' - as if they're millionaires - they've not got a pot to p!$$ in
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People like that drive me crazy, I cant stand waste, I always ask people when they say something is not working have they done the usual checks and the answer is almost always no, even a washing machine if it stopped working I'd unscrew the back and check to see if there is anything I can do first before spending money, I even tried taking a knackered dehumidifier apart last year to see if it was something I could sort out, if the item is not working you might aswell have a go, its already broken anyways so you have everything to gain if it starts working again, same goes for those annoying people who if they lose something and make no decent effort to look for what they have lost and instead just go to the shop and buy a new one, pet peeves of mine lol.
 
dappa2 said:
People like that drive me crazy, I cant stand waste, I always ask people when they say something is not working have they done the usual checks and the answer is almost always no, even a washing machine if it stopped working I'd unscrew the back and check to see if there is anything I can do first before spending money, I even tried taking a knackered dehumidifier apart last year to see if it was something I could sort out, if the item is not working you might aswell have a go, its already broken anyways so you have everything to gain if it starts working again, same goes for those annoying people who if they lose something and make no decent effort to look for what they have lost and instead just go to the shop and buy a new one, pet peeves of mine lol.
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Wow are you me??!! Haha! I pay for nothing without having a go at it first lol. 9/10 I bloody win too.

My mate has seen my sly setup and said "fcuk me, it's virtually the same....How much you pay for that?" I said, "£6 a month for all my iptv sly channels (ALL channels+ more) £5 a month vpn....so £11 a month, what about you?" He said "£80 a month with the offers at mo, but then it goes up to £120 a month....but I don't mind paying £80 a month like......." I couldnt convince him that he should get rid and just pay £11 a month like me.....he said it was too much hassle, even though it would be me handing him a fully set up box!! Nuts man. Some people are just weird lol. Anyway, the fewer people jump on the better imo, keeps things going for us savvy ones a bit longer eh?!
 
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